The ZenRUN Podcast

Gabe Alves is back for his first regular Delirious West 2027 check-in, and apparently one of the things he needs to get better at for a 200 miler is... walking. 😂

Not wandering-around-the-shops walking either.

Gabe has been heading out with a full pack and deliberately stopping himself from running, even when running would feel easier. There’s a theory behind it, and with Feral Pig coming up very soon, he’s about to get a pretty good chance to test it.

Feral also comes with a little unfinished business from last year, which means Gabe is feeling good about his training while still having that tiny voice reminding him just how hard this race can be.

We also chat about what his Garmin has been telling him over the past few months, why he’s paying attention without letting one number completely run the show, and the ongoing puzzle of fitting strength work around big weekend training.

Then there’s the small matter of working out how to race keto when your cheese turns into mush in your pack.

Three weeks until Feral Pig.

Surely nothing interesting will happen. 😂

Thinking about taking on Delirious West yourself?

If the stories in this series are giving you that little itch to be part of it, have a look at the event details and see whether 2027 might be your year.

Delirious WEST event website
https://deliriouswest200miler.com.au/

Event Facebook group
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1428304207182387

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💛 Running used to clear your head. Now it’s another thing weighing on it. Let’s change that.

If you’re tired of dragging yourself out the door, feeling guilty when you don’t, or comparing every run to what you used to do - Feel Like a Runner Again is for you.

This practical program helps you quiet the mental noise, drop the pressure, and rediscover running as time for yourself.

Less “I should go for a run.” More “I’ve missed this.”

👉 https://www.zenrun.app/courses/feel-like-a-runner-again

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Have you ever noticed how much extra tension you carry when you're running, especially when things start getting a little harder?

This week's ZenRUN Moment is about something that made a real difference to my own running: learning to recognise the difference between effort and tension. They're not the same thing! You can be working hard, breathing heavily and giving your legs a proper workout without clenching your jaw, tightening your fists or hunching your shoulders. But it's surprisingly easy to add all that extra tension without even realising it.

On your next run, especially when you're heading up a hill or picking up the pace, ask yourself one simple question: "Is this effort, or is this tension?" Notice what your body's doing. Are your hands relaxed? Are your shoulders creeping towards your ears? Are you holding tension in your face? See if you can soften those areas without backing off the effort. You're not trying to make the run easy. You're just trying to avoid making it harder than it needs to be.

And it's a pretty useful lesson for everyday life too. We can put effort into something without adding unnecessary stress and tension along the way. Sometimes a little less fighting ourselves makes the whole experience feel better. So give it a go on your next run. Run strong, but not rigid. Small moments of awareness like this can completely change the way running feels.

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💛 Running used to clear your head. Now it’s another thing weighing on it. Let’s change that.

If you’re tired of dragging yourself out the door, feeling guilty when you don’t, or comparing every run to what you used to do—Feel Like a Runner Again is for you.

This practical program helps you quiet the mental noise, drop the pressure, and rediscover running as time for yourself.

Less “I should go for a run.” More “I’ve missed this.”

👉 https://www.zenrun.app/courses/feel-like-a-runner-again

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Ben Ridley is back for his first regular Delirious West 2027 check-in, and before the serious trail training begins, there was one fairly important piece of unfinished business.

Melbourne Marathon.

Last time we spoke, Ben had temporarily become a road runner and was chasing the experience of running into the MCG. This time we find out how that little adventure actually went.

There were thousands of runners, a slightly chaotic start, a goal quietly sitting in the back of his mind and, somewhere towards the pointy end of the marathon, a knee that decided it might like to join the conversation.

But Ben came away from Melbourne with something else too.

Apparently the bloke who once thought one marathon would be plenty may have caught the marathon bug. 😂

Now the focus starts shifting back towards Delirious. Trails, hills, strength work and longer weekends are coming back into the picture, with a familiar event also waiting for Ben soon, although this time he’ll be standing on the other side of it as Race Director.

The road-running chapter might not be finished, but Delirious training is about to get much more real.

Thinking about taking on Delirious West yourself?

If the stories in this series are giving you that little itch to be part of it, have a look at the event details and see whether 2027 might be your year.

Delirious WEST event website:
https://deliriouswest200miler.com.au/

Event Facebook group:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1428304207182387

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💛 Running used to clear your head. Now it’s another thing weighing on it. Let’s change that.

If you’re tired of dragging yourself out the door, feeling guilty when you don’t, or comparing every run to what you used to do - Feel Like a Runner Again is for you.

This practical program helps you quiet the mental noise, drop the pressure, and rediscover running as time for yourself.

Less “I should go for a run.” More “I’ve missed this.”

👉 https://www.zenrun.app/courses/feel-like-a-runner-again

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Ben Pyman is back for his first regular Delirious West 2027 check-in, and apparently one of the six months between now and race day has already disappeared. 😂

The good news is that things are moving in the right direction.

Since we last spoke, Ben has squeezed in an ultra, spent plenty of time on the other side of the course volunteering, and discovered that perhaps lugging boxes, swinging sledgehammers and forgetting to eat the day before a 53K trail race isn’t ideal preparation.

There was still plenty to feel good about from the run though, and it gave Ben a useful little confidence check before the Delirious training starts getting more serious.

Then this week, training has taken an unexpected pause thanks to something completely unrelated to running.

A tooth.

Yep. Welcome to ultra training. 😂

We also start getting into the practical stuff that I suspect will become a regular part of Ben’s journey towards the 200. Sand, poles, packs, shoes and how much gear you really need when you’re planning to do the whole thing self-crewed.

One month down. Plenty still to figure out.

Thinking about taking on Delirious West yourself?

If the stories in this series are giving you that little itch to be part of it, have a look at the event details and see whether 2027 might be your year.

Delirious WEST event website:
https://deliriouswest200miler.com.au/

Event Facebook group:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1428304207182387

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💛 Running used to clear your head. Now it’s another thing weighing on it. Let’s change that.

If you’re tired of dragging yourself out the door, feeling guilty when you don’t, or comparing every run to what you used to do - Feel Like a Runner Again is for you.

This practical program helps you quiet the mental noise, drop the pressure, and rediscover running as time for yourself.

Less “I should go for a run.” More “I’ve missed this.”

👉 https://www.zenrun.app/courses/feel-like-a-runner-again

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1. If you enjoyed this episode, please follow, rate, and review the podcast - it helps more runners discover these conversations.
2. I’m always looking for runners to interview. If you (or someone you know) has a running story to share, I’d love to hear from you.

Find me on Facebook or Instagram @ZenRUN.club
or email hello@zenrun.club

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Paul Watkins is back for his first Delirious West 2027 check-in, and he’s currently sitting in that very special part of a training block where the early enthusiasm has worn off and taper week still feels a very long way away. 😂

With Coast to Kosci coming up first, the training is getting done, although Paul is feeling the miles and wondering what it might be like to wake up without feeling tired and sore.

We chat about how he fits training around family and life, and why he’s become much less interested in having the perfect training week. Sometimes the long run happens on Thursday. Sometimes life says, “not this week, my friend”. Apparently the world keeps turning.

There’s also some discussion about gear, Paul’s reluctance to retire running shoes that still technically resemble shoes, and his slightly unconventional approach to strength training.

And with Coast to Kosci getting close, we discover something else.

Despite everything Paul has done, he still hasn’t figured out how to taper properly.

Which should make the rest of us feel considerably better. 😂

Thinking about taking on Delirious West yourself?

If the stories in this series are giving you that little itch to be part of it, have a look at the event details and see whether 2027 might be your year.

• Delirious WEST event website – https://deliriouswest200miler.com.au/
• Event Facebook group – https://www.facebook.com/groups/1428304207182387

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💛 Running used to clear your head. Now it’s another thing weighing on it. Let’s change that.

If you’re tired of dragging yourself out the door, feeling guilty when you don’t, or comparing every run to what you used to do - Feel Like a Runner Again is for you.

This practical program helps you quiet the mental noise, drop the pressure, and rediscover running as time for yourself.

Less “I should go for a run.” More “I’ve missed this.”

👉 https://www.zenrun.app/courses/feel-like-a-runner-again

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1️⃣ If you enjoyed this episode, please follow, rate, and review the podcast - it helps more runners discover these conversations.

2️⃣ I’m always looking for runners to interview. If you (or someone you know) has a running story to share, I’d love to hear from you.

Find me on Facebook or Instagram @ZenRUN.club
or email hello@zenrun.club

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Ever noticed how your breathing changes once you reach the top of a hill?

Hills have a funny way of showing us exactly how hard we're working. Our breathing gets heavier, our shoulders tighten, and sometimes we're so focused on getting to the top that we forget to notice what happens afterwards. This week's ZenRUN Moment is all about paying attention to your breathing after a hill and noticing how your body recovers while you're still moving.

On your next run, once you've reached the top of a climb, check in with your breath. Is it still fast and heavy? How long does it take to settle? Try relaxing your shoulders, easing your pace slightly, or taking one comfortable, deeper breath. There's no need to force anything or judge how quickly you recover. Just notice what happens as your breathing gradually finds its rhythm again.

This is a useful skill that goes well beyond running. When life gets stressful, we often hold tension without realising it. Learning to recognise those moments and give ourselves a little space to settle can help us respond more calmly instead of simply pushing harder.

So next time you tackle a hill, remember that reaching the top isn't the end of the experience. Pay attention to what happens next. Recovery is part of running too, and learning to notice it can make your runs feel a little more relaxed and enjoyable.

Small moments of awareness like this can completely change the way running feels.

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💛 Running used to clear your head. Now it’s another thing weighing on it. Let’s change that.

If you’re tired of dragging yourself out the door, feeling guilty when you don’t, or comparing every run to what you used to do, Feel Like a Runner Again is for you.

This practical program helps you quiet the mental noise, drop the pressure, and rediscover running as time for yourself.

Less “I should go for a run.” More “I’ve missed this.”

👉 https://www.zenrun.app/courses/feel-like-a-runner-again

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2️⃣ Got a running story - or know someone we should chat with? I'd love to hear from you.

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Sometimes in a Delirious build, no news is very good news.

Craig Maluish is a few weeks further into his journey towards the Delirious W.E.S.T. 200 miler and, at the moment, things are rolling along pretty nicely. No niggles, no dramas, just training, work and life with a one-and-a-half-year-old.

Although the next couple of weeks might make things a little more interesting.

Craig is heading east to support the Australian team at the Backyard Ultra World Championships, and he’s hoping to keep his own training ticking along while he’s away. There may even be a fairly decent trail run squeezed into the trip if everything falls into place.

Back home, his 24-hour event is getting closer, so the training load is gradually building.

And because we’re getting closer to Delirious, we also wander into something that I suspect will become a regular feature of these chats: gear talk.

Shoes, socks, sticking with what works and just how much experimenting is actually necessary.

For now though, Craig’s Delirious journey is refreshingly uneventful.

Touch wood. 😂

Thinking about taking on Delirious West yourself?

If the stories in this series are giving you that little itch to be part of it, have a look at the event details and see whether 2027 might be your year.

Delirious WEST event website:
https://deliriouswest200miler.com.au/

Event Facebook group:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1428304207182387

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💛 Running used to clear your head. Now it’s another thing weighing on it. Let’s change that.

If you’re tired of dragging yourself out the door, feeling guilty when you don’t, or comparing every run to what you used to do, Feel Like a Runner Again is for you.

This practical program helps you quiet the mental noise, drop the pressure, and rediscover running as time for yourself.

Less “I should go for a run.” More “I’ve missed this.”

👉 https://www.zenrun.app/courses/feel-like-a-runner-again

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1. If you enjoyed this episode, please follow, rate, and review the podcast. It helps more runners discover these conversations.
2. I’m always looking for runners to interview. If you, or someone you know, has a running story to share, I’d love to hear from you.

Find me on Facebook or Instagram @ZenRUN.club
or email hello@zenrun.club

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Last time John Herzfeld told us he was resetting his training for Delirious.

Apparently that reset needed another reset. 😂

But now, with the Delirious W.E.S.T. 200 miler getting closer, John has decided it might finally be time for something slightly radical.

A proper roadmap.

In this Delirious West 2027 check-in, we chat about starting again after a few quieter months, finding a rhythm without trying to do everything at once, and John’s developing relationship with strength training.

There’s also some very sensible discussion about motivation, enjoying the process and preparing for a huge ultra.

And then there’s the far more exciting matter of buying new running gear. 😂

🎧 Come and catch up with John as his Delirious journey starts getting properly underway.

Thinking about taking on Delirious West yourself?

If the stories in this series are giving you that little itch to be part of it, have a look at the event details and see whether 2027 might be your year.

Delirious WEST event website – https://deliriouswest200miler.com.au/

Event Facebook group – https://www.facebook.com/groups/1428304207182387

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💛 Running used to clear your head. Now it’s another thing weighing on it. Let’s change that.

If you’re tired of dragging yourself out the door, feeling guilty when you don’t, or comparing every run to what you used to do, Feel Like a Runner Again is for you.

This practical program helps you quiet the mental noise, drop the pressure, and rediscover running as time for yourself.

Less “I should go for a run.” More “I’ve missed this.”

👉 https://www.zenrun.app/courses/feel-like-a-runner-again

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1. If you enjoyed this episode, please follow, rate, and review the podcast. It helps more runners discover these conversations.
2. I’m always looking for runners to interview. If you, or someone you know, has a running story to share, I’d love to hear from you.

Find me on Facebook or Instagram @ZenRUN.club
or email hello@zenrun.club

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Murray Hodgson is back for his first regular Delirious West 2027 check-in, and apparently running a marathon isn’t particularly exciting anymore. 😂

Since we last spoke, Murray has been recovering from 167 kilometres at the Goulburn Valley Backyard Ultra, and it’s been a good reminder that sometimes the body gets to decide when it’s ready to start running properly again.

Now the legs are coming back, Melbourne Marathon is next, and Murray has given himself a fairly ambitious little target for what he’s casually describing as his “42K jog”.

But his attention is already being pulled towards the longer stuff.

We chat about how his Delirious training is starting to take shape, the rather large training weeks he has planned for early next year, and why learning how his body recovers could be just as important as piling on more kilometres.

There’s also a Bali Backyard Ultra to organise, some early Delirious gear thinking, and a possible new strategy for dealing with snakes.

I’m not entirely convinced about that last one. 😂

Thinking about taking on Delirious West yourself?

If the stories in this series are giving you that little itch to be part of it, have a look at the event details and see whether 2027 might be your year.

Delirious WEST event website:
https://deliriouswest200miler.com.au/

Event Facebook group:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1428304207182387

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💛 Running used to clear your head. Now it’s another thing weighing on it. Let’s change that.

If you’re tired of dragging yourself out the door, feeling guilty when you don’t, or comparing every run to what you used to do, Feel Like a Runner Again is for you.

This practical program helps you quiet the mental noise, drop the pressure, and rediscover running as time for yourself.

Less “I should go for a run.” More “I’ve missed this.”

👉 https://www.zenrun.app/courses/feel-like-a-runner-again

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🙏 A couple of big favours

1. If you enjoyed this episode, please follow, rate, and review the podcast. It helps more runners discover these conversations.
2. I’m always looking for runners to interview. If you, or someone you know, has a running story to share, I’d love to hear from you.

Find me on Facebook or Instagram @ZenRUN.club
or email hello@zenrun.club

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Well, this is a little different.

I’m usually the one asking everyone else about their Delirious training, but Ben Pyman has decided it’s my turn to answer the questions. 😂

So for the next six months, Ben is taking over the interviewer’s chair and following my own journey towards the Delirious W.E.S.T. 200 miler.

For this first chat, we go right back to where running started for me, from growing up on King Island to rediscovering it in my twenties and eventually wondering whether I was stubborn enough to take on something as ridiculous as Delirious.

We also revisit my slightly complicated history with this race, including the very different experiences of 2025 and 2026, and what I think needs to change before I line up again in March.

Apparently I’ve now publicly committed to more strength training, losing a few kilos and actually fixing the cable machine that has been providing me with a very convenient excuse not to use it.

Ben may regret agreeing to hold me accountable. 😂

This is the start of my Delirious West 2027 journey, and this time I’m on the other side of the microphone.

Thinking about taking on Delirious West yourself?

If the stories in this series are giving you that little itch to be part of it, have a look at the event details and see whether 2027 might be your year.

• Delirious WEST event website: deliriouswest200miler.com.au
• Event Facebook group: Join the Delirious West Facebook group

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💛 Feel Like a Runner Again

Running used to clear your head. Now it’s another thing weighing on it. Let’s change that.

If you’re tired of dragging yourself out the door, feeling guilty when you don’t, or comparing every run to what you used to do, Feel Like a Runner Again is for you.

This practical program helps you quiet the mental noise, drop the pressure, and rediscover running as time for yourself.

Less “I should go for a run.” More “I’ve missed this.”

👉 Find out more about Feel Like a Runner Again

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🙏 A couple of big favours

1. If you enjoyed this episode, please follow, rate, and review the podcast. It helps more runners discover these conversations.
2. I’m always looking for runners to interview. If you (or someone you know) has a running story to share, I’d love to hear from you.

Find me on Facebook or Instagram @ZenRUN.club
or email hello@zenrun.club

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